Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Responsa for Bava Batra 350:18

והא אר"נ תני תנא מת וקברו התם דיתבי דייני אפומא דבירא וחייבוהו

nor from the buyer.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Though the dates of their purchases were later than the date of the loan. ');"><sup>32</sup></span> What is the reason? — The hypothecary obligation [involved] is not Biblical. Both R. Johanan and R. Simeon b. Lakish stated: A verbal loan may be recovered either from the heirs<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. p. 775, n. 24. ');"><sup>33</sup></span> or from the buyers.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Cf. p. 775, n. 15. ');"><sup>34</sup></span> What is the reason? — The hypothecary obligation [involved] is Biblical. An objection was raised: If [a man] was digging a pit in a public domain and an ox falls upon him and kills him, [the owner of the ox] is exempt.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since it is the fault of the digger of the pit that the ox had fallen upon him. ');"><sup>35</sup></span> Moreover, if the ox dies,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Through the fall. ');"><sup>36</sup></span> [compensation for] its value must be paid to its owner by the heirs of the owner of the pit!<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The liability to compensation is, surely, of no greater legal force than that of a verbal loan (since no bond can be produced in support of it), and yet it has been said that it may be recovered from heirs; how, then, could Rab and Samuel state that heirs are not liable to repay a verbal loan incurred by their father? ');"><sup>37</sup></span> — R. Elai replied in the name of Rab: [This law<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That heirs are to pay compensation for their father's liability. ');"><sup>38</sup></span> is applicable to the case only] where he<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Who was digging the pit. ');"><sup>39</sup></span> appeared before [a court of] law.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And was ordered to pay compensation. An order made by a court has the same legal force as that of a loan that is secured by a written bond. ');"><sup>40</sup></span> But, surely, it was stated that <i>it killed</i> him!<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' A dead man could not appear before a court! ');"><sup>41</sup></span> — R. Adda b. Ahabah replied: [This is a case] where he was fatally injured.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The infliction of injuries from which one dies may be described as 'killing'. A man injured, though fatally, may be able to appear before a court. ');"><sup>42</sup></span> But R. Nahman, surely. said that a tanna<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' 'Ar. 7a. ');"><sup>43</sup></span> recited [the statement as follows]: It killed and buried him!<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In the pit. How could it be said that he appeared before a court. ');"><sup>44</sup></span> — That [is a case] where judges sat at the mouth of the Pit and convicted him.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Just before he died. ');"><sup>45</sup></span>

Teshuvot Maharam

Rabbi Dan's report in my name is correct, that when one person gives goods to another in order that the latter trade therewith and the former share in the profits, half of the value of such goods is considered a loan (the other half is considered a deposit), even to the extent that a Sabbatical year effects its cancellation. I always consider it a loan in every respect. The law that such half be considered a loan is stated in the Talmud without qualification (B. M. 104b). The stipulations of Raba are specific; they do not go beyond those mentioned by Raba.
R. Meir adds: Your requests, Rabbi Samuel and Rabbi Dan, that I forgive Rabbi Hananiah for his insults to me are granted. I fully absolve him of guilt.
SOURCES: P. 304; Pr. 973; Tesh. Maim. to Mishpatim, 12; Mord. B. M. 390.
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Teshuvot Maharam

Rabbi Dan's report in my name is correct, that when one person gives goods to another in order that the latter trade therewith and the former share in the profits, half of the value of such goods is considered a loan (the other half is considered a deposit), even to the extent that a Sabbatical year effects its cancellation. I always consider it a loan in every respect. The law that such half be considered a loan is stated in the Talmud without qualification (B. M. 104b). The stipulations of Raba are specific; they do not go beyond those mentioned by Raba.
R. Meir adds: Your requests, Rabbi Samuel and Rabbi Dan, that I forgive Rabbi Hananiah for his insults to me are granted. I fully absolve him of guilt.
SOURCES: P. 304; Pr. 973; Tesh. Maim. to Mishpatim, 12; Mord. B. M. 390.
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